You've done an amazing amount of work.
I have a big concern. There is way too much work and additions to things that go beyond the Earth 1a continuity.
Remember our continuity sources were the episodes, the SF comic book and those Earth 1 comics the SF comics referenced.
Don't you think this wiki should only reflect that?
There is a ton of stuff/pages (etc.) that is considered non-canon and needs to be marked as such. We have templates that are designated for these types of pages.
Also, on these pages there needs to be citations which show the separation from canon and where the info came from and what universe its from.
Lastly, we have over 5,000 pages. The DCAU has less than 4,000 and the Smallville wiki has less than 2,000 pages. So, it seems like we have way too many pages.
If you have any thoughts or suggestions, let me know.
I may have some time on my Christmas break to help tighten things up.
Well ... I do check from time to time .. just haven't logged-in in quite some time.
The pages aren't that big of a deal I guess.. just a lot to manage. I see several that are just not needed .. big picture wise.
Having said that, this wiki is as much yours as it mine. Meaning that I can't come in behind you after all your work and 'sweep it clean' so to speak according to my preferences.
I do think we should speak further about what is considered canon. That does not mean that if certain things are not considered cannon, they cant find a home here, they just need to be marked as such (biography templates, headers, etc.).
While I see your point, when I made the seasons, the page you just posted did not exist. When you changed it, you made season 5 go to Shorts 80 twice. The same with season 6. Most of the literature at the time I created it, made a distinction between the shorts and seasons. How ever we designate not the issue. Changing what you changed is ... because it affects several other pages. You follow? Hard to type exactly what I mean.
Lastly, please mark for deletion, pages you believe should be deleted and i'll get to them when I can.
SF wiki founder
Don't forget the mission statement by the SF wiki founder: He has a word on quality over quantity. http://superfriends.wikia.com/wiki/SuperFriends_Wiki:About --Superman Fan (talk) 21:44, November 28, 2014 (UTC)
Sounds great. Thanks for being receptive.
In the mean time, check for those pages that should be deleted and make any suggestions you may believe that will help tighten it up a little.
What I mean
What I mean by tighten up .. when I go to http://superfriends.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WantedPages I see a ton of pages that jst don't need to be made.
when I read the 'History' section of Giganta's page, I see a ton of links to pages that don't contribute the overall objective of the wiki or page.
deleting unnecessary pages
I see words like transportation, gorilla, ape, transformed, woods, kill and lasso which give me pause, because they are simply unnecessary and do not contribute to the overall goal/objective of the page.
The word 'transportation' could easily be made into a category if its not already.
You see my point?
When I have time, I'd like to delete all these and others that I find that fall into the above mentioned objective of not contributing to the overall goal of the page.
Keeping these pages does not streamline the wiki.
Do you want to discuss this further or do you want me to go through and prune/delete?
first off .. no worries!
I'm not gonna come in like a whirlwind and undo all your work... :)
Having not really looked at the site in a while, it appears very busy and lacks proper citation.
My point is that those pages your describing are categories, not pages unto themselves. You'll this practice on most of the other wikis too.
So, every time u see the word automobile is cool, its not a streamlined practice.
I also realize that coming in and trying to implement what I wrote is also a daunting task.
Anyway .. cant solve it all now.
This stuff is not continuity...
Understood. Its still a parody and should be treated/designated as such.
Maybe we need to create templates (from character to location, etc) that say that.
Please compile a list of pages and leave me a msg here or create a category page and msg me that category page.
Now, after today I probably wont have as much time to get on her till the weekends or Christmas break.
Love all the hard work you've done... we'll be in touch.
Remember that citation is ultimate!
We must cite everything!!
Citing the episode alone is insufficient for an online encyclopedia.
We must cite the series/season, the episode and the date.
◾ Season 4 (1979) episode: Lex Luthor Strikes Back
Check out the following link: http://superfriends.wikia.com/wiki/Suicide_Squad
Is this canon?
If so, what's the connection?
Is it mentioned in the comic books or one of the continuity-related comic books or shows? http://superfriends.wikia.com/wiki/Continuity_with_Earth-One http://superfriends.wikia.com/wiki/SuperFriends_in_Other_Media
I see that Chronos is seen in issue 22 of the SF comics... is the origin of the character expounded or the group mentioned or is it conjecture?
Remember that conjecture is fine, but the pages must use the conjecture template and it mist be clearly explained in the text of the page.
I hate to ask (cause it does involve a good bit of work), but could you go to all the new pages you've made and add these templates and make these changes/additions?
I (as I know u do) want this wiki to be the best encyclopedic resource for all things SuperFriends... so quality must rule the day!
manual of style
I will be going back to the manual of style and shortening and making it more streamlined. Is too busy and too long .. not ones going to read it.
Some of the info on the page could easily be transferred to the talk page or the notes section of the respective pages mention on the manual of style. .. this the mention on the manual of style page is not necessary?
Besides being short, with a little ambiguity is not a bad thing and will help with the streamlining of the page and the wiki.
a few msgs
I sent about 3 msgs ... were you responding to all of them?
Canon starts the series, then moves out to the comic books and beyond.
I wasn't questioning the canon bit, just the sourcing ... it has to be more clear.
Having said that, I do have reservations about the games determining canon though.
I'll see what I can do about making new templates ... though it will probably be closer to Christmas.
Now... changing the templates are fairly easy .. however, once the changes are made, you'll still have to go to every page that has that template and make the changes there too. .. cause u use the code on the respective pages to plug in character info ... those codes will have to be changed too ... that's a huge task.
I'll check on the templates regarding the change to homeworld ...
As I review the wiki, I see pages like Ibac ... these pages need to be cited properly.
What is your source?
Is it canon or conjecture, etc.?
thanks man .. I appreciate u.
Since im big on canon, the page Sector 2814 as listing such as Lanterns is outside of canon... this page should be abut whats know in the Earth-1A universe.. not conjecture or info from other universes.
If it does it needs to contain proper citation.
Battery of power page
so put a list together of templates u think should be made ...
also, since ive been out of the game for a while ... also explain what they mean and what they should be include in the Earth 1A universe or if not included why they should be on this wiki.
I need to know things like (this list is not exhaustive): - explain what a Super Powers DC Heroes role playing game is - what is fan production character - what do u mean by "DC Heroes" (so I can properly designate templates or [category] pages, etc) - what is a DC Super Friends and why it should be on this wiki
All the help I can get will me streamline the site ane make the best encyclopedia it be...
If you a have links to templates to give me ides (as in Memory Alphas Multiple Realties), send them my way.
what category pages, would you put ibn a section like this? http://youngjustice.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Non-canon
or better yet, if I made this template, would u put in on pages that would be considered non-canon?
changed the header templates to have more streamlined look...
check them out: http://superfriends.wikia.com/wiki/File:Template_view.png
this is what the header templates I said id make will look like.
Is this page needed?
so please explain the connection Doomsday (character) has to the Earth 1a universe. What is this alternate reality u refer to?
Also, pages like this need the 'conjecture' template at the top.
Superman Red ... not canon.
Toys and video games are not canon.
I would suggest a template for these pages ... and removing the Earth 1a designation on character box.